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    • CommentAuthorjskc567
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2010
     
    will some one tell me some us manga for download for free ? xie xie .hahah
    • CommentAuthorjskc567
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2010
     
    show ~ come on!
    • CommentAuthorsmiggy3000
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2010
     
    erm, we would, but thats like illegal I think... but there is the manga infulenced webcomic, http://www.bladekitten.com/
    • CommentAuthorjskc567
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2010
     
    :-> it is okay
    • CommentAuthorjskc567
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2010
     
    But that website's manga is a little urgely 。 I want to see high intelligent us manga 。Like somebody in black and they are good at criminal action ，such as
    《tomb beauty》 ，《Hacker》and so on。and it is better that they are better than DragonBall,CityHunter..... It will make me excited！！！but i can't find them 。Or it takes money。。。and i have no money.
    • CommentAuthorMidnighter
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2010
     
    Make your own then.
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      CommentAuthorOK Comics
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2010
     
    I just did some quick magazine reviews for a few Manga...

    Biomega is fast paced action adventure, set in a matrixy style future, staring a motorcycled assassin and a bear (not a man in a bear suit) who go up against corporate controlled zombies!

    In the mystery series Pluto somebody is killing/destroying the worlds greatest robots and it's up to Interpol Detective Gesicht to sort it out. But Gesicht is also one of the worlds greatest robots, so surely he's on the 'death list' too.

    Set in the 1970's and 1999, thriller 20th Century Boys tells of a group of childhood friends who meet up as adults for a funeral. They discover that an apocalyptic religious cult may have links the gang they formed as kids, even using their club house logo.

    All available at OK Comics for cash money pounds. (Y'know so everybody involved can get paid and buy stuff to live).
    Only download stuff for free if you want them to stop doing it, that goes for everything, comics, music, movies everything...
    • CommentAuthorLee
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2010
     
    Does that work? If I download it for free they'll stop doing it?

    Can someone send me links to illegal downloads of Wayans Brothers 'comedies', any Keane and Athlete albums and any Franken-Castle issues?
    • CommentAuthorjskc567
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2010 edited
     
    you know ? I can make manga by only myself,but I do this for art ,for fun,for somebody .I think there is some one else doing this too.So I am always waiting some great
    manga...
    In my place,there is a software called "comic reader".By it, you can download the comics for free.But the manga is shot by camera by someone.hehe.So I wonder
    in your place whether there is some simillar software too ?And I can use it download the manga for free.
    • CommentAuthorjskc567
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2010
     
    Can you draw manga ?
    • CommentAuthorjskc567
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2010
     
    Why are there so much rubish manga with charging a lot.I want the US manga .With goalden hair.With beauty.With intelligence..............With.............With..........With....................
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      CommentAuthorOK Comics
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2010
     
    You didn't just....? .....Did you?
    • CommentAuthorjskc567
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2010
     
    what ?
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      CommentAuthorOK Comics
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2010
     
    This is a family forum dude! No panking!
    • CommentAuthorCaptain Si
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2010
     
    Does Manga cost a lot? The books are all largely under a tenner and are a good few hundred pages long - compare that to the average US issue which costs, on average, £2.99 (roughly half the price of the cheapest Manga books out there) and on value for money Manga wins out. As for US Manga, I dunno. The only thing I can think of is 'Empowered', but I doubt such top shelf hijinks are what you're looking for.

    Incidentally, I think its a shame you aren't prepared to pay for something someone's spent a good deal of time working on for your benefit. I know I don't work for free, right? You could try sourcing some second hand stuff if price is genuinely an issue.
    • CommentAuthorMidnighter
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2010
     
    I always thought "US Manga" was a bit of an oxymoron.
    • CommentAuthorjskc567
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2010
     
    I like money.
    • CommentAuthorjskc567
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2010 edited
     
    hei hei , "US Manga" is created by me ~~~~
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    There's no such thing as "US Manga" or even "Japanese Manga". Manga is Japanese for comics. It's all the same things. Some people call it comics, some manga, some graphic novels, the French call it bande dessinée (literally drawn strip) and the Dutch call it stripverhalen (literally strip stories). It's all what academics would call "Sequential Art".

    The English term comes from the fact that they were originally humour strips, hence "comic". This has unfortunatley held back the medium in UK and USA as the name itself is prejudiced - contrast this with Japan and Europe where "comics" are seen as just another medium. In fact the French call comics "the 9th art" - which is about as far from the UK/USA public perseption as you can get.

    Sorry, it's just a bug bear of mine!
    • CommentAuthorjskc567
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2010
     
    where are you ? Are you an American ?
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    Hell yeah, gawd demmit.
    • CommentAuthorMidnighter
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2010
     
    Ah, but Mike, "manga" is used by us westerners to distinguish between Japanese and other comics, which is why I get annoyed when things get called "US manga".

    As for the French, Bande Dessinee is generally used for European stuff and the word "comics" is used for American imports.

    But I do totally agree with your thoughts on how comics have been held back, especially in this country,
    • CommentAuthorLee
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2010
     
    I call all comics bazute.






    I don't really.
    • CommentAuthorCaptain Si
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2010
     
    well. okay. 'US Manga' to me, is stuff like Empowered and Dirty Pair. Stuff that uses Manga techniques and visual language (including all that big eyed stuff) but did not originate in Japan and has therefore not been translated from Japanese to English. I am aware that such labels are stupid and counter productive. Might just be me, but i never have had a problem with 'comics' as a generic term for describing the synergy between words and pictures. Graphic Novel has always sounded rubbish (and it bugs me when that label is applied to trade paperbacks), and the '9th art' sounds very....pfft...Guardian Sunday Supplement. :D

    And yes, comics have been held back because of a myriad of incorrect labels.
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    My problem with 'Graphic Novel' is that it suggests it's a "novel" with pictures - which is isn't. You might as well call it an art exhibition with words.
    • CommentAuthorjskc567
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2010
     
    haha, you are English
    • CommentAuthorLee
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2010
     
    He's got you there, Mike, you Limey scoundrel!
    • CommentAuthorMidnighter
    • CommentTimeMay 18th 2010
     
    I'm with you guys on the "graphic novel" front. Really bugs me when people say "no, i don't read COMICS, I read graphic novels like Sandman". I just want to slap them with a copy of the Beano. I just like to call them big comics! A "graphic novel" would be something like The Killing Joke or Pride Of Baghdad, anything that originated in that form rather than was serialised. But then we get into the old argument about how a lot of the great novels were actually first serialised in magazines. Ah well.
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    I think people use the word "novel" to imply some distinction in quality, a work that's deep and meaningful. Even in literature you could say "I've written a book" and people wouldn't be that impressed, but if you said "I've written a novel", people would be like "ooooooooh" and assume it's some war and peace work of complex genius.
    • CommentAuthorsmiggy3000
    • CommentTimeMay 18th 2010
     
    I too hate the disitinction betweed trades and novles, was Watchmen collected before being serialsed because its stated as the best graphic novel ever, but when I read it it had 12 different parts with covers n stuff...
    • CommentAuthorLee
    • CommentTimeMay 18th 2010
     
    War & Peace is rubbish, by the way.
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    Damn!!! And I'm half way through the book!!!
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    I call them "comics".
    Particularly when I talk to someone for whom they are not a part of the cycle of life. Otherwise I spend twenty minutes going on about graphic sequential narratives and outlining the chasmic differences between OGNs and TPBs, newstand, direct market and bookstore distribution, mainstream and altcomics, etc. etc. before just capitulating in the face of their massive disinterest before finally blurting "Y'know, comics!" And they go "Comics! Iron Man! Cool!" and then they say "so, they still make those, huh?" And then they start talking about immigrants and mortgages.

    So yeah, I call them "Comics". It's good enough for the Japanese. Beat me with sticks then! But you'll have to beat all of Japan too!
    • CommentAuthorjskc567
    • CommentTimeMay 18th 2010
     
    I sometimes call them art~~~
    • CommentAuthorjskc567
    • CommentTimeMay 18th 2010
     
    I like to beat Tsukasa Hojo.Because he draws well.
    • CommentAuthorMidnighter
    • CommentTimeMay 18th 2010
     
    I think "novel" is generally to distinguish between a piece of fiction of length as opposed to any other kind of book (non-fiction or short story then).
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    Yeah, and that ties into it - a novel must be superior to a short story because it's longer. Same as this assumption that if a film's 3 hours long it must be brilliant. A 3 minute record can never reach the highs of 45 minute piece of classical music. A graphic novel is "superior" to a comic (monthly/floppy/pamphlet/whatever) simply because it's longer.

    It's all pseudo-intellectual nonsense.
    • CommentAuthorMidnighter
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2010
     
    Who says novels are better than short stories? Personally I just use it as a descriptive word relating to the size of the fiction, not to say that it's better than anything else. There are LOTS of shit novels out there and plenty of great short stories.

    Mind you, if we believe Stan Lee, all Marvel Comics are novel length stories of wonder ;-)
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    I don't know who thinks those things Mr. infinitum thinks they think but if they think those things they are clearly wrong. I've never met anyone who thinks those things but I rarely meet people, as I find their most attractive quality is to be found in the avoidance of them in any number greater than three.

    Like Midnighter says, a novel is merely a term applied to a work of fiction in the long form. It's simply a helpful label to differentiate a work about robot skunks in world where social workers are used as currency, say, from a history of rural cotton picking in Cornwall. Physically though both fiction and non-fiction all take the form of books. As indeed do short story collections.

    Saying a thing is a novel is not saying it is better than a book, because it is physically a book. Calling it a novel tells you that it is fiction of length greater than a novella or short story. Novels, novellas and short stories are all differentiated by a generally agreed word count; those labels are themselves again used merely to indicate the length of a work not its quality. Such labels though are not concrete; Chuck Pahlaniuk's novel Snuff is clearly a short story packaged as a novel with the sole aim of enraging me. If one were to say that a novel were better than a short story, then one would, in effect, be saying that Dan Brown is better than Raymond Carver. If one were to say that then one would do well to avoid me for the duration of one's natural span. Perhaps longer.

    Anyone who judges a film, book, comic or piece of music by its length is clearly not firing on all cylinders, Mr.Infinitum. Just flick the backs of their ears until they stop such silliness.

    It's a good job no one has mentioned that all novels may be books but not all novels are literature. Because people sure do like to be told what is literature and what isn't. Yes, sir, people sure do love that one. I'm glad no one brought that up.
    • CommentAuthorsmiggy3000
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2010
     
    Judging things by length is kinda harsh, but 1hr does not make a film, that is all...
    • CommentAuthorCaptain Si
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2010
     
    ...but it does make a 'short film' :D
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    A novel is not just definded by it's length (IMO) - it's more than just a page count. I would argue that if I wrote about me going to the shop, looking at all the products and then coming home, and managed to stretch it out to 200 pages, it wouldn't be a novel.

    Here's a couple of dictionary definitions:

    a fictitious prose narrative of considerable length and complexity, portraying characters and usually presenting a sequential organization of action and scenes.

    A fictional prose narrative of considerable length, typically having a plot that is unfolded by the actions, speech, and thoughts of the characters.

    Although there is some argument that even the "considerable length" is not a requirement for a novel - clevery addressed by Charles Shultz by way of 'Snoopy' in the novel It Was A Dark And Stormy Night that clocks in at 214 words and there is also the infamous Hemmingway story only 6 words long ("For sale: baby shoes, never worn.") which he contested was a novel regardless of it's length.
    • CommentAuthorsmiggy3000
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2010
     
    I made a short film, it was 5 minuetes long, I may link it here...
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    Mr. Infinitum is of course correctamundo to the max. What makes a novel a novel is more than the page count. I was just focussing on one aspect. The wrong one it seems. My apologies but I still don't think anyone uses the word novel as form of value judgement.

    The precise definition of a novel is probably still being heatedly debated by people with elbow patches and public funding even as we speak. No really, I bet it is. And I should also note I've read more than one novel about people just going to the shops, heck, one was about what a bloke thought during his lunchtime (The Mezzanine by Nicholson Baker), and it seemed too short to fit the word count definition. It was still a novel though. See, I can't even agree with myself what a novel is. No wonder there is still war in the world.

    But have you written a novel, smiggy3000?
    • CommentAuthorsmiggy3000
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2010
     
    ofcourse I have...

    wait, no, havn't :)

    have you?
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    My son is my novel. My one great gift of creation to the world.
    • CommentAuthorLee
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2010
     
    I bet some people would use novel as a value judgement, in the same way I would suggest a film was different to a movie (though clearly they're interchangeable terms) - The Godfather is a film, Iron Man is a movie. Certainly people call comics graphic novels to avoid the perceived stigma of comics.

    There are several six-word stories that some published authors churned out to ape Hemingway. A couple were very good but I can't remember them.
    • CommentAuthorMidnighter
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2010
     
    Isn't "movie" just what the yanks call a "film"? Movie doesn't even come up in a standard UK spell checker.
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    I call them "talkies"
    • CommentAuthorMidnighter
    • CommentTimeMay 20th 2010
     
    They are harbingers of doom and simple fluff for the lower classes:

    http://www.snopes.com/lost/poseidon.asp
    • CommentAuthorsmiggy3000
    • CommentTimeMay 20th 2010
     
    well thats clearly a lie...
    • CommentAuthorMidnighter
    • CommentTimeMay 20th 2010
     
    All 100% true!
    • CommentAuthorsmiggy3000
    • CommentTimeMay 20th 2010
     
    im a film studies student, I know when the poisden adventure was written...
    • CommentAuthorMidnighter
    • CommentTimeMay 20th 2010
     
    shhhh, it's meant to be a joke, but never mind!
    • CommentAuthorsmiggy3000
    • CommentTimeMay 20th 2010
     
    jokes about Titanic are just wrong, unless its about the film...
    • CommentAuthorLee
    • CommentTimeMay 20th 2010
     
    Is anyone aware of the TV news report that described some wreck as being "like a real-life Titanic"?
    • CommentAuthorsmiggy3000
    • CommentTimeMay 20th 2010
     
    wtf!, thats just ridiculous...
    • CommentAuthorMidnighter
    • CommentTimeMay 20th 2010
     
    Probably American.

    Anyone watch You Have Been Watching? Few weeks ago they were talking about how the 7/7 Bombings in London were reported on a certain Fox Local News broadcast in the US which said "Terrorist Bombing in a major capital city... which one? Find out after this break". Unbelievable.
    • CommentAuthorjskc567
    • CommentTimeMay 20th 2010
     
    Are we talking Counter Strike ?
    Have you ever played " Cross Fire " ???
    • CommentAuthorjskc567
    • CommentTimeMay 20th 2010
     
    Bomb has been planted ~~~
    • CommentAuthorCaptain Si
    • CommentTimeMay 20th 2010
     
    Ooh! i watch 'You Have Been Watching'. Fox News is demented. So is Sky. I loved the live election coverage where Kay Burley was heckled by protestors "Sky News is S***! Watch the BBC!" :D
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      CommentAuthorOK Comics
    • CommentTimeMay 24th 2010
     
    I think Movie and Film are just the same word from different mouths.

    We get loads of people coming into OK. One person will say something like "Oooh, Comics." and then their snooty friend will say something like "au contraire, these days we call them graphic novels". and then look at me with a knowing nod, or even a wink!!!! as if we're in a special club.
    Actually I just call them all comics. If it's thick enough to require a spine, I'll refer to it as a book, but as far as I'm concerned if it's got pictures in sequence telling a story, it's a comic.
    I even named my shop after it.
    • CommentAuthorsmiggy3000
    • CommentTimeMay 24th 2010
     
    I thought it was because you couldn't think of anything else and you were thinking, "Ok, comics..."
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    The worst term is "Trade Paperback" aka TPB. Anyone who isn't immersed in comics lore will just look at you witha blank face if you recommend the "trade" of such and such a comic.

    Fortunately a lot of publishers are now referring to them as "Collected Editions", which is better, but still possibly confusing for the newcomer [if you buy your comics from say, Waterstones, it's not impossible that you were never aware that the book you are reading was once published in monthly installments]

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