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      CommentAuthorRob
    • CommentTimeOct 21st 2006 edited
     
    I had a few laughs at this collection of pictures:
    http://www.b3ta.com/challenge/old_superheroes/

    That got me thinking, what comics have dealt with age realistically? The recurring Cap America storyline is that he woke up to a world where his friends are now pensioners. But what about stories where the heroes get old?
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      CommentAuthordigbyswift
    • CommentTimeOct 21st 2006
     
    That's funny! I always figured that superheros (especially mutant ones) must somehow have the ability to stave off getting old, or at least would have a side-kicks who just being around would have the same effect.

    I was talking to Mayberry about this and its funny cos in Xmen titles, characters don't get older, they get bigger. For instance, Mayberry pointed out that Cable is just enormous and seems to keep growing. How does the guy get dressed on a morning, especially since he is no longer a telepath? I suppose they have to get bigger because the younger readers inevitably get bigger too ...
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    what i want to know is why all mutants in comics have a higher resistance to pain i mean when shit mutant villans get hit by cyclopses eye blast there still up again in about a minute. maybe stan should do a one shot to explain it to me
    • CommentAuthorpilgrim
    • CommentTimeOct 21st 2006
     
    they must, i mean it's been said that when cyclops takes off his visor he can blast through a mountain, but all that ever seems to happen is they get knocked back quite far
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      CommentAuthorArseface
    • CommentTimeOct 21st 2006
     
    yeah they always go on about how their powers can move mountains, if i had powers that could move mountains i'd be seriously freaking people out like i'd move the himalayas to the USA and then move the Alps to australia.
    • CommentAuthorpilgrim
    • CommentTimeOct 21st 2006
     
    maybe i'd just take all the mountains and dump them in the sea in a luther-esque plot for land
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    but look at superman returns near the beginning he has a bit of trouble trying to stop a plane falling from the sky and at the end he pretty much moves a mountain not to mention a mountain tht is filled with krptonite
    • CommentAuthorpilgrim
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2006
     
    well, at the start he's had a few years off so he's a little rusty with the whole heavy lifting thing.
    • CommentAuthorWalkin-X
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2006 edited
     
    aye there is always them inconsistances. Like Wolverine used to cut deep once and take ages to heal and recover and now he can grow himself back from a skeleton and still clock a guy in the face in just a few minutes. I mean I know his healing factors got a boost over the years after his adamantium skelton was removed but still.

    The cyclops thing I can kinda explain. Cyclops has a lot of self control over his power. It seems that as well as using his visor to control the width and occurance of his blasts, he is able to mentally control the level of power they have. It seems when he blasts someone and they just get knocked over, its a low impact blast, simply meant for that purpose. But when he wants to destory a sentinel or something like that, its higher. I mean we have seen him knock over a human in one blast and also decapitate a solid steel sentinal. I mean if he hit a human with the same blast as the sentinal, the human wouldnt even be there anymore, they'd be vaporized.

    This seems to apply to both mainstream and ultimate cyclops as well.

    Of course if anyone has read the X-Men Civil war offshoot, we have seen Cyclops is even more powerful then we ever thought and I hope we get to see more of it myself.
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      CommentAuthorArseface
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2006
     
    how would they be vapourized? seen as his beam is concussive it wouldn't vapourize them would it. Depending on the size or width of the beam it would either made a hole in them or just blast them back and break lots of bones. Seen as i havn't been reading the x-men civil war tie in how is cyclops more powerful?
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      CommentAuthorOK Comics
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2006
     
    What would have happened to Cyclops if Leach hadn't 'switched him off'?
    I used to prefer it when Wolverine took a while to heal, now it seems like you could cut of his arm in a fight and It'd grow back in time to through the next punch.
    That Thora Hird picture is the funiest thing I've seen in ages.
    • CommentAuthorWalkin-X
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2006
     
    Well he does have that vapourised ability. I can't remember what issue it was, I only read it avbou tit afterwards, but in one arc he completely oblirated and near vapourised Mr Sinister.

    There is that inconsistancy though, does his power contain heat? On the stats and write ups it says no but you often see his visor giving of trails of red which looks very similar to heat, the same when he hits an object. It has also been shown him uctting through steall like a welding torch so that would suggest heat. But its all uncertain.

    Cyclops was controlled for a brief time by the mutant Johnny Dee and his unborn but still attached , tiwn brother. Johnny Dee could feel that Cyclops had never used his full ability, being afraid of it he set up a mental block. Johnny Dee bypassed this and unleashed Cyclops ful power or near to it on Bishop who couldn't contain it. Both nearly died and when Bishop could release the power, it blew the arm clean off a new Sentinel that was suppsoed to be resistant to Cyclop's blasts. Then again when they had to free the 198 Cylops unleashed hsi full blast on Bishop again so they could get Tony STark's unbreakable door open. It worked but Cyclops power grew out of control. His entire body was glowing with pure energy, you could see his skelton, he could barely talk and couldn't move. Leech got to him and stopped it though, meaning Cyclops survived.

    What would have hapened if he hadn't? I belive Cyclops would have literally exploded...honestly.

    Tho I thought of a cool way to bring his power again in a possible end to the civil war but I doubt it will hapen.
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      CommentAuthorArseface
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2006
     
    sorry what?
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      CommentAuthorMayberry
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2006
     
    i assume that cyclop's beam doesn't contain heat as such- but it would cause heating via friction after chopping up a steel bar or some such.
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    Just realised: Judge Dredd ages a year in his comic for every real time year. Although I guess he's not really "super". Or a "hero" as such. But he does age. So he's about 50 or so by now. Go chin face!

    Anyway, sorry to interrupt, back to Cyclops' eye-beam.
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    Noooo way too much X-men stuff. Let's talk about Judge Dredd. (Now theres a candidate for worst Superhero film).
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      CommentAuthorArseface
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2006
     
    do they still do a judge dredd comic? theres some really good judge dredd stuff like dredd vs death or the block war thing when east meg invade mega city one.
    • CommentAuthorWalkin-X
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2006
     
    I read a spin off of the Judge Dredd series, called The Missionary Man.

    It was very, very good!! Very violent, religious stuff in it, attitude. My kind of story.

    Aye, as I say all the write ups say no heat but it always comes off as heat lol.

    what was unclear about the last post besides the odd typo?
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      CommentAuthorOK Comics
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2006
     
    Missionary Man was indeed awesome. I've never been a big fan of 2000AD, the comic that Judge Dredd's in, but Frank Quitely's work on Missionary Man was some of the best of his career.
    And 2000AD is indeed still running. It still comes out every week. OK Comics, The comic book shop in Leeds, have just started a big 2000AD push, so c'mon and get amungst it.
    • CommentAuthorWalkin-X
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2006
     
    If your doing Missionary man runs I may break my Marvel rule and go for it. I was that impressed by this title.
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      CommentAuthorArseface
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2006
     
    whats your marvel rule? that you only buy from marvel?
    • CommentAuthorWalkin-X
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2006
     
    yeah...

    well thats all I have done so far, tho I did buy Marvel vs DC crossover which was a joint publication.

    I read other comics like DC and so on but I just never buy them. Yet.
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      CommentAuthorOK Comics
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2006
     
    I always think it's a bit wierd that people stick with one particular comic publisher. I don't know anybody who does that with book publishers or record companies.
    We have one customer who used to buy loads of comics, Marvel, DC everything, and he decided to cut down. But rather than just buy his favorites he opted to just buy DC stuff. So there was probably great Marvel stuff that he loved that he doesn't read any more, and there's probably DC stuff that he doesn't particularly like, but he still buys them....
    Just read good comics. Forget about who publishes them.
    • CommentAuthorWalkin-X
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2006
     
    I see your point.

    Its just I like Marvel best so far. I like X-Men and Rogue especially. I like Spider man and Daredevil.

    I know Superman and Batman and I'll go see their films and such liek but I am just not dorwan to the comics.

    Now I tho I do get different graphic novles out of the library once a month and read them and they broaden my horizans and let me see the different styles and so on. I read a bit of DC stuff this way and its ok but it doesnt wanna make me wann go out and buy more of it.

    Though saying that I did enjoy reading a Gen13 graphic novel which was a DC publication.

    I got to read my first Preacher graphic novel this way to and I reckon one day I will buy that line of graphic novels.
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      CommentAuthorArseface
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2006
     
    I was like you abit cos wasn't really interested in anything other than marvel but alot of stuff in the librarys is really good and they hardly ever have marvel stuff in the librarys, I first got into y:the last man cos of the library and like most of the vertigo stuff is amazing just go in one day and ask ok man what he would recommend as a really good comic to buy other than marvel and try it out.
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      CommentAuthorOK Comics
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2006
     
    American Virgin Book One is out this week, another great Vertigo series, and it's only £6.99 too...
    • CommentAuthorWalkin-X
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2006
     
    yeah the library never has any marvel stuff.

    I saw a post you did about American Virgin, is the one with the americn fundamentalist christian guy who's girlfriend gets raped an murdered in Africa on missionary work and he has to go claim the body or something?
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      CommentAuthorArseface
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2006
     
    yeah but she just gets murdered, beheaded infact. It's really good, the comic not the beheading.
    • CommentAuthorWalkin-X
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2006
     
    haha.

    cool. I may..may check it out
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    B3ta has some of the most disturbed people in the US and UK, having said that I still laugh.
    Also reminds me of Last Hero Standing, though I hated it to bits, retired Spider-Man with a artificial leg and I think at some point the Hulk rips it off and starts beating people with it.
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      CommentAuthorArseface
    • CommentTimeOct 25th 2006
     
    they put a few issues of last hero standing on the marvel website for people to read and they were really shit, I was really dissapointed to find out it was loki behind it all and there was me thinking it was gonna be someone good.