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- CommentAuthorNimbus Thitherward
- CommentTimeOct 25th 2006 edited
Sorry to all of you who thought I'd gone, but this is going to offend all you Walkin-X saluters. But shit happens.
Walkin-X elsewhere on this forum claimed that CGC had changed their Age definitions. For those who you who don't know who CGC is they are the company that grade, slab comics and license the slabbing of comics. They are big business. Very big business particularly in America. And for somebody to claim that they had changed such things as Age definitions on their website is a pretty serious accusation. So I did what any curious researcher does and I contacted them through their website. It's quite easy to do, they have a "Contact Us" link on their home page which you'll notice if you give their pages anything more than a quick glance. I asked if what Walkin-X had stated as true providing a link to the Forum page with his postings. And a pleasant chap called Scott Talmadge replied to my query. Now Scott is the Receiving Manager and Customer Service Department Manager at CGC. And this is what he said ~
"This is untrue. Age definitions have been the same and have not changed.
Scott".
You see claims like X's could cost a firm a lot of lost business. And reflect extremely badly on the owner of the Forum who in this case is OK Comics. Unsubstantiated comments, poor research and a complete lack of knowledge of a given subject are dangerous in the hands of the ignorant. -
- CommentAuthorWalkin-X
- CommentTimeOct 25th 2006
dude let it go.
your pissed coz of the saluting thread? good god man.
I only said how I remembered it. Thats all. Its my memory. To say otherwise to burden myself that I am losing my memory, and thats just too much worry.
There was no Copper Age when I was looking on the site when I first did a bit of looking ont he subject. The 2nd time I admit I didnt look up the Copper age tag.
The 2nd post I made with the dates was taken off the CGC, then you said summat about that not being right. So whatever.
Just an attempt to insult me by dressing up as being "for the good of OK comics and the CGC".
I really dont think I could sink the companies due to one post about comic ages.
I think its strange that you sent them the entire convo.
people say I over react and am strange.. -
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CommentAuthorgeorgiana
- CommentTimeOct 25th 2006
to be fair walkin x, you thought you were going to get arrested because we joked about the 'stalkin x' thing on here and stalking isn't even relevant to comics. and you were rather over the top about it... just saying -
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- CommentAuthorNimbus Thitherward
- CommentTimeOct 25th 2006 edited
Actually the post is quite relevant. You stated that they had re-branded, your words not mine. I was curious enough to see if I was right or if the dates had changed. You weren't. But of course any correction of your "facts" has to be taken by yourself as an insult, which from reading your posts is par for the course. The point is it scares you to be proven wrong. If anyone could be accused of using bully boy tactics on this forum it would be you. Or have you forgotten some of the statements you've made about OK Man? You don't have the humility to admit you are wrong. You feel fine when accusing other people or handing out labels, but as far as facts are concerned you are remiss.
Oh and by the way where's the quote from? Or is that something else you made up? -
- CommentAuthorLamont Cranston
- CommentTimeOct 25th 2006
Oh Mr Nimbus
I hope you didn't get the impression we were all hailing Walkin-X as Lord of All Things Upon Heaven And Earth in order to disrespect your good self. It was more of a celebration of his unique combination of Karl Pilkington's surreallity and John Byrne's diplomatic qualities. His entertainment factor as it were. Well,that's what I was saluting, best not speak for others. He seemed to take his defeat quite badly so I think we were just giving him little boost. A little tousling of his cyber-hair.
I certainly didn't think/hope you had gone. I very much enjoy your demonstrations of comic (and other areas) knowledge,they are very informative and entertaining indeed. And we still have to chat about Dredd. I just thought you were busy. -
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CommentAuthordigbyswift
- CommentTimeOct 25th 2006
Interesting issue.
I'm not sure that Walkin-X getting it wrong is that big a deal. Misinformation in the hands of the right people isn't a bad thing. I mean, lets say certain customers thought CGC had changed the Ages. The worst that is going to happen is they're going to look in the wrong back-issue boxes in their comic shop. And as I remember it though, OK comics has the dates on their boxes (although i'm usually in awe of the unused coffee machine to pay too much attention).
However, its misinformation in the hands of the wrong people that matters. Like JM and shop owners who might damage their rep by passing on dodgy info. But people like JM are far too clued up to take this kind of thing at face value and will alwyas do their research. If they don't its possibly their own problem.
On a plus point, be thankful for Walkin making so many slip-ups. Without them and his truly stubborn attitude, this forum would be half as much fun. -
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- CommentAuthorDevilShadow
- CommentTimeOct 25th 2006 edited
Misinformation is very serious problem, just look at Iraq's WMDs or rather lack of.
But this isn't that bad, for one it'd be silly for the CGC to change their age definitions as this would confuse the hell out of collectors and people who could give a monkeys about it, which would be collectors. Also it's not just Walkin's fault, if someone reads something on the internet and takes it at face value they're just to blame, for example people who believe anything because they read it on the internet, since I'm half sure that collectors have better sense than this, I doubt that Walkin did much harm to anyone's business. -
- CommentAuthorWalkin-X
- CommentTimeOct 26th 2006
arrrggghhh!!!
there us a difference between a mistake about comic age branding (whihc is pretty meaningless to most people except comic collectors) and being called a stalker georgina. Stalking is vile, its a mentla issue and a crime. I aint gonan get get arrested for one post about the CGC branding. But people may think shit abou tme if a bunhc of peopel call me a stalker.
Nimbus. I dont give a 2 flying tiswas toss if I was wrong and you was right about the whole branding issue. That wasn't my issue. It was how you and OK spoke to me. Saying I was wrong wasn;t an insult. Its how you went about it that was the insult, calling me names and so on.
"claims like X's could cost a firm a lot of lost business. And reflect extremely badly on the owner of the Forum who in this case is OK Comics"
I paraphrased. -
- CommentAuthorNimbus Thitherward
- CommentTimeOct 26th 2006
With regard to this posting the point is you stated CGC changed their definitions which they clearly didn't.
As to insults "Just an attempt to insult me by dressing up as being "for the good of OK comics and the CGC"." refers to this posting.
As to the manner I respond to your postings if you read the original ones I tried pointing the error out to you in a polite manner. You over react on a regular basis. It seems to be fine for you to be rude and start name calling, because you normally pass that off as humour.
The issue is what you made it. -
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CommentAuthorArseface
- CommentTimeOct 26th 2006
you dirty stalker x! -
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- CommentAuthorboy fantastic
- CommentTimeOct 26th 2006
guys guys guys. why must we hurt each other, forums like this were created to unite the comic book collecter which is lets face it a diein breed. we had a little help from seth cohen obviously but tht didnt last long rly. we need to start thinkin of each other as equals not the kind of group who basically go around saying i kno more about comics thn you. people might kno different things and a lack of some subject but it doessnt mean they deserve to be any less credited for being a collecter. wht we have to realise is tht geeks like us (sorry if you resent tht be c'mon) need to stick together and start trying to bring back the magic and excitedment of whn comics were first invented. like tht one line tht makes you just think wow hes gonna kick some ass or tht particular piece of artwork tht brought a tear to your eye, things like tht is wht we should be debateing.
all im saying is tht we need to unite. think of the x-men. a band of brother who were different to anyone else but could still kick arse better. its just like us were the breed of mutants who have a super human thirst for comics.
so remember tht just cause you feel different to everyone else your not different to us.
so read your comics and graphics but remember tht we are artists and admirers, writers and readers and tht we are all from the same line of artists and admirers and writers and readers.
to everyone
from boy fantastic -
- CommentAuthorWalkin-X
- CommentTimeOct 26th 2006
your really into comics ain't you boy fantastic?
its cool, I like the sentiment. Its like a movie moment :-)
Nimbus - all I ever said was this was what I remembered and checked out. You was th eone that went ona nd on and one again anad again about me being wrong and I nmust correct msyelf and I must do this that and the other. You was rude, very rude and now you continue to carry it on, when I have moved on. Why? coz there is a thread abou tme now? Did it gile you that people werea saying nice tihings to me (even if they are doing it as a joke maybe).
it says more of you then me.
I only reacted when I was insulted by OK and you and responded.
I dont dish our rudness and insults unless people start on me first, that is my preogative. Its called self defence. -
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CommentAuthorRob
- CommentTimeOct 26th 2006 edited
You tend to see attacks in innocent comments and then launch pre-emptive strikes. Which aren't self-defense unless your name is George Bush. -
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- CommentAuthorWalkin-X
- CommentTimeOct 26th 2006
no thats not true at all.
more and more insults, more and more things list this just means the longer I stay away from OK Comics and that means aat least 1 less customer and less sales therefore.
so decide what you want. WHats more important? beguiling me or sales? -
- CommentAuthorboy fantastic
- CommentTimeOct 26th 2006
just fookin let bygons be bygons
not sure how ya spell tht -
- CommentAuthorWalkin-X
- CommentTimeOct 26th 2006
I wanted to move on, in fact I did move on but he keeps bringin git back up and others wann have a go so fine.
I'd liek to see any one of you get slated and made libellous statements of and stand there and hoenstly say you won't say owt back.
and if you say you do ur lying coz no1 would. -
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CommentAuthorArseface
- CommentTimeOct 26th 2006
wow your spelling is reeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaally bad boy fantastic, we do discuss comics and art just in other threads, but I do think that the whole walkin x is wrong about cgc thing is goin on abit. Nimbus you must've been really bored, really want to get at walkin x or you just want to make him angry because that was some serious detective work you did to prove him wrong. -
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- CommentAuthorWalkin-X
- CommentTimeOct 26th 2006
I think the slautes to walkin-x thread guiled him.
look at that opening line. Its pure psychology at work. -
- CommentAuthorNimbus Thitherward
- CommentTimeOct 26th 2006
"I'd liek to see any one of you get slated and made libellous statements of and stand there and hoenstly say you won't say owt back."
"Oh man. Give it up. You didn't know what you were talking about, but as usual you can't accept anybody elses version of facts. Everyone who's been collecting comics for more than ten minutes knows you made an error...
Just admit you were wrong. Go on. I dare you." (a post by OK)
"Its amazing OK how you expect people to shop at you store when you insult them on this board....
go on, I dare you to explain that without saying that you don't give a toss about one customer coz of you have legions of shoppers who will alreayd buy ur stuff, hence making you out to be less the independanct, friendly, caring shop owner image you portray and more the money cnetred, numbers only important, hard nosed businessman that crack through." (your response).
"But I wasn't!!! Why should I roll over and say I am worng just coz some comic loving cyber bully boys say so??" (another of your responses).
I'd go on but there's so many to choose from.
And I've made my point. -
- CommentAuthorWalkin-X
- CommentTimeOct 26th 2006
you proved nothing. -
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CommentAuthorArseface
- CommentTimeOct 26th 2006
one should take the other to court and you should battle it out there, or have a knife fight to the death. -
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- CommentAuthorNimbus Thitherward
- CommentTimeOct 26th 2006
X ~ Ho hum! Let me know when you've got something factual to say. -
- CommentAuthorWalkin-X
- CommentTimeOct 27th 2006 edited
yeah let me know when you got over your obession.
You want facts?
You claim its for the good of OK and CGC but its all personal. Look tat the title of the thread, look at your opening line.
if this was a factual thread about comic ages you wouldn't have anyiing of me in it but now, there is my name first and foremost in you mind.
It guiles you doesn't it? It got to you. Now you have a personal thing against me.
a bunch out of context copy and pastes jobs prove nothing.
the only one who continues on about this is you, its your problem and you expect me to rool over and bow down to you, say your right, I am wrong, I'm a terrible person? You must want this by how much you are going on about it. Your continued forcing of the issue, of something no1 even cared about, even me just shows your own issues with it, me and the bullying tactics you use. -
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CommentAuthorArseface
- CommentTimeOct 27th 2006
I think nimbus is laughing his ass off about how worked up X is getting. -
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CommentAuthorgeorgiana
- CommentTimeOct 27th 2006
i think we all are :) -
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CommentAuthordigbyswift
- CommentTimeOct 27th 2006
This is great, its like a soap opera! But Walkin, dude, i mean does the phrase "moth to the flame" mean anything to you? You not only rise to what are actually harmless jokes, but to almost anything anyone writes unless it categorically states that it's a compliment. All Nimbus is stating are facts, not personal insults, and he's doing it very level headedly. Don't be offended by facts mate. I mean its not like you have to justify anything or apologise to anyone, so just except what Nimbus is saying and drop it, right?
And before you jump the gun, this is not an insult, it is also fact :) -
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CommentAuthorThe collector
- CommentTimeOct 27th 2006 edited
and im afraid i read over your list of "facts" and there all opinions (think before you post eh?) -
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CommentAuthorgeorgiana
- CommentTimeOct 27th 2006
oh now this is getting silly boys -
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- CommentAuthorWalkin-X
- CommentTimeOct 27th 2006 edited
oh fucks sake now it is and really is annoying how you blatenly ignore everything that has been said, all the facts just to have a go.
I wasn't even worked up before.
Nimbus was worked up making a wholr thread about it, making it clearly personal yet I get the blame and got at.
friendly my arse, its group tactics again, picking on someone.
I didnt give a toss about what the fecking dates were. Its how he spoke to me, what he said and what OK said at the time.
OK did apologise you know, did Nimbus??
No.
fact.
really annoying this is, and then you expect me to come to events and see you. If this is what you do on a message baord, u think i wanna spend my time getting it face to face? -
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CommentAuthordigbyswift
- CommentTimeOct 27th 2006
Oops yup sorry collector! Mine is indeed an opinion ... *shame*
However, thinking outside of my work environment has never been something i take to seriously! Terrible habit i've got into. I get paid to think, so when i'm not in the office i generally don't ... -
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CommentAuthorgeorgiana
- CommentTimeOct 27th 2006 edited
its the freakin internet. chill out kids -
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- CommentAuthorWalkin-X
- CommentTimeOct 27th 2006
yeah but it isn't is it coz its real people, a real shop and real chance of seeing the people that are arguing and so on.
its not an a big, multi thousand membered website with people you'll never see. Events are organised, like last nights drink.
I didnt go to that for partly this reason, the toruble on the boards. I dont wann be faced with people insulting me and having a go.
you may not see it as important but I dont knwo anyone who would willing go into that kind of situation. They say would but would they?
bottom line is its not nice to do that and it shouldnt be done but it so so what do you do?
I didnt want to argue or fight.
I removed myself from the previous argument,a ttempted to move on and yet still I am dgragged back inot it by people.
you say I take it too seriously then dont do it.
I dont like being callled a stalker and more. its serious.
if I said your mother was a prozzie or ur sister or gf or u was a rent boy. You'd be offended. I just say it like it is.
please note I do not wnat this to continue. I'd rather talk comics and random crap but if some1 has a go I will respond because its only fair to. As I said, why should I rool over for anyone?
by and by, I dont think this does anything for the comic fan community. I stood in that line and heard the chavs go past shouting their crap. How can you even stand against that kinda crap if you got some one moaning about the dates of comic ages and taking it that seriously? thats what makes it geeky. Thats a bad image. Not comics themselves.
jeez it may be grandeous but think about it really. -
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CommentAuthorArseface
- CommentTimeOct 27th 2006
if you said that stuff about my family then I'd disregard it because I don't even know who you are and i've never met you so it wouldn't affect me, I didn't go to the roscoe last night cos i had no moolah, spent it all on comics, rookie mistake. X why do you put an empty line under every thing you say? -
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CommentAuthorOK Comics
- CommentTimeOct 27th 2006
It's for dramatic effect.
I don't think anybody from the signing actually made it to the Roscoe last night. I ended the evening having a quiet drink with staff and customer friends at the Swan.
W'eX (abreviated Walkin X), you and I have had our disagreements on the forum, and as bold, outspoken and sure of yourself as you are online I find you to be quite different in real life. Quiet, polite, almost timid in nature. And when you and I meet at the shop I am always very civil with you, despite what you may have typed about me the night before.
I'm sure if you'd made yourself know to other customers, forum users and staff (many of which were meeting each other for the first time) they would have realised that you're not the stubborn, blinkered ball of attitude you often, probably mistakenly, come across as on here. You may have made some friends.
How was the pub quiz, by the way? Any questions on X-Men? -
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- CommentAuthorWalkin-X
- CommentTimeOct 27th 2006
Nah no X-Men questions. It was pretty sucky to be fair.
Good point - free soft drink.
Bad points - poor nibbles, groups already knowing each other, sitting next to a guy that pissed me off the week before with his last minute demands and no comic questions (tho they did have a pictures round with classic cartoon and childrens characters which brought back some memories).
Plus I fell over onto the pavement on the way there in the middle of town. My hip, pride and once cool image are very sore (cool image was a joke).
True, you have been nice despite our arguments, tho you do apologise or make good hearted posts and jokes after we do so it doesnt feel too much like your carrying it on.
Yup, the online and the real life is a big of a differnce. Some of that is losing the context, subtly and humour in written words that you get if you speak them.
Maybe I would have if they are willing?
the lines are old habits from uni days where you had to have duble spacing between lines because they can't read them otherwise.
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CommentAuthorArseface
- CommentTimeOct 27th 2006
i see, old habits die hard ey. Maybe you falling over the pavement was karma for not staying longer at the signing, all you people who didn't go....you better watch out because karma's about. -
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- CommentAuthorWalkin-X
- CommentTimeOct 27th 2006
oh I went, queued, bought something, spent a afair bit talking to Sean Phillips. Just didnt go upstairs or owt.
Probably coz I wa srushing for bus, plus pavements aren't even and there was a guy with a trolly thing in front of me so thats what made me trip.
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