We always have a 50p section in the shop and constantly stock it up. I think the best deal we have is our FREE Lending Library. We let people borrow books to read for free. That's gotta be pretty sweet.
Mallrats is a greta film, I actually agree with the quote though, why don't you use boards?
yeah the library is cool, I used it once and am debating whether to try that Lucifier title, but its limited titles. I only buy selected single issues, the rest are graphic novels which add up. It would be cool to walk in and see a 2 for 1 on my fave X tiles once lol
ok does do special offers from time to time they have done be a bulk discount once or twice and they even had buy on get one free on the art of marvel books once
There are two reasons why we don't put boards in with all our comic bags. Time and expense. In the US comic shops staff just open the boxes and put the books straight on the shelves, the price is printed on them, it takes no time at all. In some comic shops in the UK the staff just take 20 minutes to price the books and get them on sale. At OK Comics it takes hours to bag and price a mornings delevery of comics before we get them on sale. Boarding them as well would take a long, long time. And we'd have to charge more for the comics too, we can't afford to give away thousands of backing boards every week.
I did some surfing and admittedly they were usa sites but most had free baords or like 100 boards and even bags for like $1.
I mean I guess form collectors point off view its the standard like, I mean if you get single issues comcis and they are old ones and they arent boadred, then u get looked down on by comic aces such as the brodie banks charcter.
Shop around or trawl through the ads in Comics International. If you want them boarded and if you look hard enough I'm sure there'll be some dealer out there who will charge you a premium for the service. As to shops in Leeds at OK at least they don't put the stickers on the comic itself like they do at Bedridden Damit.
Brodey is a loser, lovable yes, but a loser. Who want's to be like him? Now Earl Hickey, there's a guy to look up to...
I guess the shops that do bag and board comics still have to pay for the bags and boards they use, even if they don't pass the cost on the the customer. The reason Forbidden Planet don't bag their comics anymore is because, when I was the manager there, I sat down and worked out how much money we were giving away. It was more than my car cost. The reason OK Comics does bag comics is quite siply because the customers like it. And we like having customers. Does all that make sense?
yeah, I mean if you didn't bag the comics then you'd never get any serious collectors in coz bagging is the miniumum they require like. I wouldnt bother with new comics, but some of the older ones, its supposed to keep them in good nick right?
My mate is gonna take over a paper and card business soon, supplying the markets. I am sure I could have a word with him and see if he could sort you out some boards, its just stiff card afterall.
Bordie ain't a loser...he ended up hosting the tonight show, was banging Shannen Doherty and then ended up owning his own comic store.
I bet thats a wet dream for some of the clientel lol
My birds fitter than Shannen Doherty anyway, and I already own a comic shop, in the real world. We actually sell all the supplies any 'serious' collector would need, though I like to think that most of my customers buy comics to read rather than collect. I don't think most people mind whether they get a bag or not. People do object to thir comics having price stickers on.
anything over a tenner gets baged and borded at ok any thing under a pound has its bag riped from it in Disgust at poor sales and cast unto the 50pence box -wizard, 5-23
I like getting my comics bagged, although there's no way I'd go out and buy my own comic bags.
One thing that I really don't understand is paying to have your comics professionally graded - http://www.cgccomics.com/grading/ - it's minimum $29 for each comic, and they're then sealed inside a plastic container which you can't open unless you want to pay for a re-grading. Madness, I tells you!
well I generaly read graphic novels now, rather then single comics.
but I do buy some single issue comics as a colletcor because I am collecting key issues of my fave character.
I buy them for both reading purposees and collecting purposes, so one day the collection might be worth something.
you couldnt get much for unbagged, unbaorded, sloppy comic apperently and its all in the condition, hence all the grading and such.
they can go for big money if you look, but the big comci crash in the 90's severely affected the worth of the bronze age comics onwards,, even silver and gold got affected.
I dont think I'd ever get my comics graded on that thing coz of the cots and u cant read them anymore, tho if I had one that was super valuable I may do.
its cooll tho if ok comics does board comics selling for over £10.
Seriously though i quite like my comics in bags, it stops me tearing off the outer cover with the price sticker, though the price stickers at ok seem surface friendly, unlike at other stores,
I personally couldn't give a rats about boarding, though i do like that quote from mallrats and id rather buy comics simply because im too impatient for the grapic novels, even if does burn a hole in my wallet. You're either reader or collector.
'We wanna keep this comic FOREVER.' Simpsons, Three men and a comic book.
Personally I just see bags as something that slows me down when I'm trying to get to the good stuff. My comics mostly just build up in drifts on my bedroom floor until my girlfriend shouts at me and I shove them at random into boxes. I end up chucking loads of bags out every month cos I just can't be arsed with them. It's not like any given collection of modern stuff is likely to be worth much in 10 years time anyway...
Good point. Most stuff these days is printed to order so there's never any real shortage of a particular title. And even comics that do shoot up in value, they tend to drop again when it's reprinted as a book. It takes a keen eyed collector to spot the next Walking Dead, Mouse Guard or Talent before they're hot.
the big comic crash put an end to comcis being worht much nowdays except for the older ones and thats why they get bagged and boarded for value and such.
I eman there is vlaue in some old comics, as all them old one son the OK Comics wal that seel fro £50 or more testify.
That Wolverine comic has already sold. We don't just make the prices up, you know. We have a very strict pricing policy for everything we sell. The price of back issue items is based on the cost to us, plus our standard percentage mark up which we need to keep running. If a book like Wolverine 1 cost us 35 or 40 quid to buy in why the hell would we want to sell it for £10. I'm not here to become a millionaire but I do need to pay my rent, staff wages, stock bills, phone and electricity bills, and maybe even pay myself a wage too.
your funny Austin lol, seriously, notjoking theat last comment was inspired.
I dont want anything/... well except to be rich, maybe a bit of fame, better body, super powers, and some lady love at the mo.
hehehe
nah, its just debate man. Chill.
I know coz I read up a lot.
And I know that you may have to make a choice, much like in the Civil War of whos side your on, the customers or the comic companies.
You see the comic companies started stiffing over the customers, in the 90's, releasing the same comic but twith different covers and suhc, basiclaly just grabbing for the notes. The custmoers revolted and the comic companies got buggered. Tons of independants went unde rand I blive both DC and Marvel hafd masses of money problmes, indeed I believe it wa sMArvel that went into bankruptacy.....
.. Then i reckon the X-Men movie saved it and comics resurged again but ina different form. Now kids wer eno long the bread and butter, buying single issues. It is now collectors and adults fuelling th eundustyr, buying graphic novels.
However I aint sure Marvel have learned their lesson seeing as if you want to get every singel aspect of the Civial War, you have to get about 52 seperate single comics.
Anyway, the companies are gonna stick the cusotmers. You as retailer may have to decide what your gonna do. Do you set in the Ivory tower and do nothing, siding with compnaies, or do you show love for your custmoers by screwing the rules and doing some deals, sales, and so on.
Its competeion time to, with the stale warts Forbidden Planet and Travelling man in business and now Borders and Virgin coming in on the act, with their own comics sections. I am sure WH Smith and HMV will probably follow..
then youc ould end up like Meg Ryans book store in You have Mail, of hyeah there was a business story there...
So after that long explation, I guess whats left to say is what MArvel are flashing in our eyes allt he time.....
thats a bit excessive just to get the your comic a bit cheeper wouldent it be easyer to just buy it i mean a pound a week for 10 weeks its yours you could even get it saved for you.
no offence to any one who does but if i do get into saying who the best inker and letters are and im not wrighting a comic make sure i get banned from comics
im with you there i only talk about wrighters and pencilers i know of as well as the storys
Wow, that all got a bit heated.... Thanks for the history lesson Walking X, but I think your mistaking the big business practices of Marvel and DC with the tight budget a fledgling comic book shop. Let me go on record as saying I hate, that's right hate, when people ask for a discount on stuff. Do these people think that my land lord will offer me a discount on my rent, or my staff will agree to work for less. How many other shops do you ask for discount? Asda, Top Shop, Borders. Profit margins are so tight on comics that any discount offered massively cuts into the businesses ability to function. If a shop buys 100 copies of a comic from Marvel or DC (both of which are parts of huge multinational companies and both doing quite well thank you very much) that shop has to sell around 65 copies of that comic just to break even. Maybe you think it's OK to ask for discount at OK Comics because you're being served by the owner of the business. But that's even more insulting! Why don't you come round to my house and eat my tea off my plate.
I asked for a discount on the Secret Wars at Borders coz the cover wa sa bit tatty, got a 10% off the already cheaper price.
;-)
Well they may doing ok now, no doubt down to the film success that boosted them back up again but they were in financial straits for their tricks.
Indeed you may have tight profit margins and costs, of course you do.
But llok at all you sell. If someone wanst the compelete , covereall story of the Covial War for instacne, theres 52 spereate comics to get, thats a lotta mulla. All those graphic novels in volumes and so on. the Xtreme X-Men is over 8 volumes, the Ultimate X-men is over 13 and so on.
the Age of Apocalypse all in is £80.
thats a lot for reading.
So as much as you have your profit margins, we have our own budgets. Leats you get paid when you seel a comic, even at discount. We just get lighter wallets.
I aint saying have a 95% off sale but maybe some 2 for 1 on grpahic noels or something could help your ciustmers, even make more, get more sales coz instead of not buying a graphcn novel, they may buy one or 2 or more.
its good business practice to have some sorta promotion, even small business. I rememver that from business tsudies at least.
Also when your in competetion, its the necassary evil.
I aint holding a gun to ur head and syaing do it or die bitch, I am just debating with you.
Walkin X, I have to say you are takin this way too seriously! And going back to Civil War...i appreciate your comments BUT you are not even reading it !!!
My Civil War question got bypassed: when is part 2 out? I need Part 2 & Civil War :Frontline - the next tie in. And yes, being a former Art Student who reads comics, I am into some of the inkers and pencillers etc.
Do you still want that Rogue pic?? Also, maybe I prefer buying 52 separate comics for one series. Thats why I dont buy Graphic Novels!
Walking X, You should quit it with the 'crazy woman' and 'funny man' comments. Earlier, when I asked 'And how do you know so much about retail economics?' I was actually being sarcastic. You haven't got a clue. You think we sell a lot of stuff? Well what about all the stuff we don't sell? All the stuff you see on our shelves, who do you think pays for all that? If it's 80 quid for Age of Apocalypse for somebody to buy them all, do you think I take that £80.00 and go out boozing? Most of that goes to pay the supplier A two for the price of one deal is the same as 50% off and as most comic suppliers offer an average of a 35% discount a buy one, get one free deal would cost the shop money rather than make money. I've been selling comics for 10 years and I'll gladly welcome any helpful advice, but I don't really want business tips from somebody who just remembers stuff from business studies. And I think you're getting confused between 52 and Civil War. 52 is 52 issues, Civil War is actualy 80.
So to collect Civil War its even more of a costs for the customers??? Great point.
Actually, the crazy woman was valid as I know her and I really didn't appreciate private business being shared on the public forum.
Also my post was reasonably legible so I don't need some1 saying they cant read it, and if I did have a leanring disability that affected my typing, that comment would have been discrimtory and there are laws for that kind of thing by the way.
I remebered about doing deals form business studies, the reasst of the info was osunf knowledge from y own research and business contacts so I do know what I amtalking about.
Clearly you do not welcome any helpful advice at all as I have said several tyimes its a discussion, a debate and civil in good humour but you seem to have wanted to turn it into an argument and see it as some sort of affront that I say comics are expensive to collect and gave some advice on helping out with that. Going fair out to suggest I want the food from you plate, its a bit far I think.
I ma just giving the customers viewpoint is all.
its actually good marketing feedback, that some , in fact many businesses pay for and your geting it for free so hey, cost saved!
I think all this can be resolved with a good old-fashioned dance-off. I'll bring my gettoblaster down to Thorntons arcade, we'll crank up the volume and dance it out to the mighty backdrop of no holds barred Garth Brooks!!! Last man standing wins.
Silver Fox - It didn't require comment and still doesnt. My business and busines sbetween people doesn tneed to be brought up here, e ven if its with you. Thanks.
OK Comics - thank you, I am sure it was sarcasam but I'll take it as genuine thanks.
walkin x - as a trained NHS worker in the Learning Disabilities field, i saw no discriminatory comments. you can comment on not being able to read something, but if it were to be ended with a derogatory word and or phrase, then it would be discrimination... however....referring to someone as a 'crazy woman' well, thats just plain hypocritical! just saying :)
Georgiana - I belive the may have thought to to think first before saying they can't read the post, coz since there seesm to eb a couple of uus on the board with dys issues, now doubt our posts aren't gonnae be perfect everytime and being drawn up on them doesn't realy help you feel good about it really, I am particaullry pissed with my thing since I didnt even know I had until last year and proibably had it since childhood so its a sore subject.
plus I know her an dshe readily admits she is crazy so its all good :-)
I was just making a suggestion is all.
I mean I'd wager the altenative crowd would go to travelling man as its in the corn exchange where they hanfg and shop.
Forvidden plent s a national, or internaional business so they ain t going anywere
and then your casual shopper is liketly to go for the bigger stores getting in on the act liek virgtin and borders.
so you can have your hardcore cusomers but passing trade and competition can still be a problem.
Savoy books on Boar Lane ~ part comics, part books, part porn (bought my first EC library there). Even further back (late '70s) there used to be one opposite the Corn Exchange (I think there's a charity shop there now)
Not even that interesting. I was looking at Viz or something. I was told not to touch things and when I mentioned that I had to touch them to see if I wanted to buy them the guy told me to leave and if he ever saw me again he's "knock my fxxxing eyes off".