Silly? I don't know. Film. Comics. Vastly different media (despite what everyone like to think), maybe the changes are what were needed to make it work on screen. The comic book costumes work on the page but in "real life" Nite Owl would look like David Mitchell in a romper suit and some swimming goggles. Brrrrrr! (That's the comedian David Mitchell not the prize winning author David Mitchell, maybe he could pull it off with his steely authorial abs, who knows?)
I just hope whoever wrote the script understood the book. (Clue: It's not saying "Wheeee! Superheroes in Da Real World! Kewl! See me so Edgeeeeey! Now go and do this but with increasingly diminishing returns for the next twenty some years." Sorry about that Hollywood, but it isn't.)
Whether it's as genius as Batman (Adam West iteration) or as %^&* as, well, pick your own sh&tfest, we'll always have the comics. Always.
I'm guessing many people have read a lot of Moore comics, but are there any of his most famous works you have yet to read? I've read the likes of Top Ten and Halo Jones, but still haven't got round to From Hell or The Killing Joke.
will do before long though, promise.
Cor, the Nite Owl pic i just saw looks a bit Clooney-era-Batman, yeesh.
I think the film looks like it's gonna be pretty good. I've heard they have kept the original ending, which was something that was originally gonna be changed after something nasty apparently happened on the 9th sept 2001. They are also apparently putting all the pirate bits onto the DVD version but will probably miss it from the cinema version. Plus the set pictures I saw looked spot on.
then again, I enjoyed V for what it was and I've always preferred V to Watchmen.
As to what Moore I haven't read: any of his Swamp Thing, Batman, ABC stuff, Avatar stuff or From Hell (which I will get round to one day just to get the bad taste out of my mouth from the film!!!!).
I haven't read that much Alan Moore stuff really, but of the books I have read here's a 'top ten' (hee hee) in order of preferance.
1. From Hell 2. League of Extraordinary Gentlemen 3. Top Ten 4. WildCATS 5. V for Vendetta 6. Promethea 7. Lost Girls 8. Watchmen 9. Tom Strong 10. Killing Joke
Anybody who hasn't read From Hell definitely should. It's one of the best comics ever. Quite daunting at first as it's so thick, and Eddie Campbell's artwork takes some getting used to at first. But it's awesome...
Anyone who hasn't read Killing Joke might want to hang on a few more weeks as DC are releasing it in hardback format. Maybe there's a film coming out or something. OKComicsman will know when it's out and how much.
OKComicsman: 4. WildCATS (?!?!?) - Whathediddledeeido? Did OKOliver goose you at that point on your list-ering? Why you no like Swamp Thing ? Why? Why?
Me, I haven't read Brought To Light. which is poor, as it is Out Of Print. Unlike WildCATS.
Issue 26 of Wildcats is one of the best superhero comics ever written, and it's part of a pretty good run. When Moore teams up with Travis Charest it's comic book gold. Killing Joke should be instore on March 20th. It'll be £11.99.
He's right about WildCATS, i was joking, then I remembered not everyone has read Moore's WildCATS (which is the point of this discussion - dur!). The first arc is really strong and for lightweight super-heroics it doesn't get much better. After that an editorially mandated cross-over tries to derail everything (No! Really!)but Moore manfully just about rescues everything. It's good stuff. And it's all in Alan Moore's Complete WildCATS available from OKComics!
Moore's oft overlooked Supreme is totally great super-shennanigans, too, if you can get past the truly mind wreckingly bad art on the first arc (The Story Of The Year TPB), which thanks to Moore's writing is possible. The second arc (The Return TPB) really rocks since Moore is joined by Veitch & Sprouse who are total professionals.
I also haven't read Lost Girls. I'm not keen on dropping sixty big ones to have Alan Moore describe the texture of a horse's pizzle. But if I bought it I bet I'd be glad I let him. That Alan Moore, he's so lovely!
it made laugh, hope its true, although i'd find it hard to beleive that Affable Al could spend that much time in the pub and still put as much thought into his comics
That is very, very funny. I bet The Moore leaves his astral projection at home to do the Comic-ing while he gets binged up on falling down water.
My Top Ten (heee!) Loveliest Alan Moore Reads:
1) From Hell (Don't be put off, it is highly enjoyable as well as good for your brains.) 2) Voice Of The Fire (Push through the "difficult" first chapter and you'll find this totally beezer. It's a proper "book" by the way.) 3) A Small Killing (If you haven't read this, do yerself a solid and fill your head with it ASAP. Atypical but Moore-iffic). 4) LOEG (God that movie sucked. "Let's pay real money for the rights to this then ignore everything that makes it good. Excellent!" Thank Glycon the comics remain untouched.) 5) V For Vendetta (Word! Rip The System!) 6) Promethea (I always get a bit lost around about Book3 but the sublime genius in the way Moore brings it all home in the last book is worth it every time. (I used to hate this series. Now I am found.)) 7) Swamp Thing ("You should not have come here." Oh, but you should. All of you.) 8) Miracleman (Geoff Johns & JMS can try to rewrite this as many times as they like, it'll never be bettered.) 9) Tom strong (Best last line ever. <Choke!>) 10)Watchmen (The entire comics industry can try to...etc)
And I didn't get to mention Superman: For The Man Who Has Everything or Superman: Whatever Happened To The Man Of Tomorrow (available in The DC Universe Stories of Alan Moore along with many other imaginary tales. But aren't they all...)
Oh, I guess I did mention them and did a cheaty there.
Others with no real order of preference 1) Big Numbers 1 + 2 80 pages of some of the best slice-of-life comics, sadly unfinished so we can only wonder at how he would have wrapped it up. (although I have a transcript that may be fake of Moore talking to a television producer about what would have happened) Bill Sienkiewicz's last great artwork. Yes I can spell Sienkiewicz with out looking it up. 2) Angel Passage CD of a performance art piece about the life of William Blake, I enjoy all the cd's that I have of his, but this is my favourite. 3) Brought to Light 32 pages detailing USA's involvement with various south american and middle eastern countires, how they fixed elections and imported drugs. Bill Sienkiewicz draws in the style of a politacal cartoonist for this comic. 4) Bojeffries Saga series of short stories about a family of monsters (a bit like the Addams family) living on a council estate in England. Funny, especially the musical episode. Drawn by the underrated Steve Parkhouse.
I didn't put Swamp Thing on my list because I don't like it. I can spell Straczynski without looking it up. It comes from years of selling his comics on ebay.
I can spell CHAYKIN! without looking it up - it comes from years of waiting for the Dynamic Forces American Flagg! Collection to appear.
Lee may very well be correct, after all, Superman: FTMWHE contains a scene where Batman admonishes Robin, who is quite clearly 'checking out' Wonder Woman's 'stuff', to "Think clean thoughts, old chum." Bat-chuckle!
