i have extensive experience buying and selling comics and my idea of grading is proper. all of these comics are in beautiful condition. transcending time, untouched and hidden from daylight they are as good as the day they were put on the shelves. if i offer more info beyond Near Mint (NM) it is due to it being perfect.
see them in real life rather than photos on ebay-
you can take these home the same day, without being subject to poor packaging and grading.
here goes:
-Ultimate X-men #1: first ever issue. Sharp edges Mint condition. will take 20 ono
-Ultimate spider-man 1 (NM) (2001 Kb toys edition): recently sold for 20 on ebay so i would take offers below that. a rare find.
-Ultimate spider-man issue 2 (2000) - flawless condition. sharp edges. the swinging cover variant- make me an offer below 20- RARE
-Utlimate spider-man 54- (NM) arachno man variant- RARE £7 is a steal
-ultimate spiderman issue 50- (NM) landmark issue a couple of quid, ono
also:
-ultimate spiderman issue 8 Variant- mega hard to find "payless shoes" variant x2 (£10 each) limited print (spidey climbing wall)
-Limited edition RARE Ultimate spiderman: Niagara falls Canada x 3 (flawless- take them to CGC and they come close to 10.0) "Big time super hero: Collectors edition" bought them from a chinese friend in canada- had them sent in a solid case and payed his high postage cost- but you can trust they are the bomb. 30 pounds each is a steal looking like this. make me an offer but dont insult.
Dynamic Forces Ultimate spiderman special 1 DF certificate signed by Jae Lee June Chung and Joe Rubenstein very limited find £25
Wizard 1/2,Spiderman with certificate authenticity and wizard packaging nice find but not as rare as some others- still, seldom found in shops- £7 ========
Also going to put ultimates vol 1 full run of issues on ebay, if someone wants to take them, before next week, the right price so, issues 1-12 of the ultimates are also available
can meet in ok comics or convenient coffee shop etc. they will be brought in bombproof packing for those who worry about condition, I am not the jolly old trader selling you spine creases for a big price, just a lad whos taken care to secure the best comics around the world and got them to his door in pristine condition ===
all near mint bag and boarded with acid free card, all special editions sealed in proper cases
where else are you going to get this set? no ebay postage, no lost in the post, no convention fees, theyve not been hung up, transported, flicked through, or stacked- they have been uniquely sheltered so do not insult. Ive had enough purchases on ebay that have been labelled mint and arrived closer to VFN+ i will consider offers for singular issues, and perhaps for the set.
good sir, may i ask how often you do get niagara falls variants- of the highest condition- in stock, in order that you may sell them for 50p?
Was that not a generalisation? true that many early ultimates have little value. As they are recent comics, they were bound to lose value. but the first are seldom found, and condition is everything for those who want more than spine creases and a read. Have you not seen CGC comics sell for 10 times the price of such 50p items?
sir, by not addressing what is valued, and placing dramatic emphasis upon what is not-valued, (bad condition irrelevant issues) you have demonstrated ignorance.
Did anyone else just imagine Jared being slapped with a leather glove and challenged to a duel? If so, what was the outcome of the duel? Were OK Oliver and a phantom stranger also duelling, making it a dual duel? Does anyone have extensive experience of duels and/or sharp edges?
the asking prices are for comics that have not been jaded in the usual ways. even in light of this, in normal condition, you would pay more than these prices, as a convention goer and former full time buyer-seller i know this much. serious offers are welcome, while many random words amount to nothing. explorations of humour that reek of attention seeking and goading a laugh out of the herd- these things are not fitting with the matter i raised. sir, you insult me. go away and dont waste my time.
authentic persons should comment from now on, and with relevance to the post.
This is by far the best thread we've had for a while! I am unclear if "zenthus" is humorous or insane (or, possibly, both) but I am confident that he is an "authentic person" (unlike that seedy 'Lamont', who is transparently an evil automaton being controlled by CHAYKIN!'s mind-waves).
However, with according respect and humility, I have depressingly extensive experience of buying, reading and considering the price of comics, and the prices that he is offering strike me as most excellent value to those who value such things, so someone please make him an offer (but don't insult) and keep this dialogue going.
"-Limited edition RARE Ultimate spiderman: Niagara falls Canada x 3 (flawless- take them to CGC and they come close to 10.0) "Big time super hero: Collectors edition""
Hey Lee lay off Lamont. The Chaykin afflication is something for which there is only one known lasting cure and we should be supportive to him in his attempts to beat this terrible, delibiltating disease by reading comics by others. But he is sadly refusing the Archie comics cure.
"-Limited edition RARE Ultimate spiderman: Niagara falls Canada x 3 (flawless- take them to CGC and they come close to 10.0) "Big time super hero: Collectors edition""
What does any of that mean!? "
CGC is a professional american comic grading company. one sends off their comics and has them graded. the rest, save for the word "rare" is exactly the text on the cover of the said comic. A limited edition comic available only from Niagara falls, does that clarify what im selling?
to everyone else thus far, your posts amount to pointless speech and cause argument. in modern terms they amount to spam. i will not protest after this but consider i am here to sell my good condition comics to the right collector; and raise the funds for something important to me.
Hey if we really get into CGC territory does that mean X is back?
And just as an adjunct to the CGC references I've always worked on the theory that one man's NM is another man's reading copy. No matter whether it's slabbed or not. In my opinion the perception of value is how much you, the punter would be willing to pay for an item. Not how much somebody tells you it's worth. To my mind slabbed comics introduce a speculatively false value in a market that could be best descibed as volatile at the best of times. And they take away the reason for buying a comic in the first place. You know, to read it.
And what's wrong with Spam? I used to look forward to those Spam fritters that they served as school dinners. Never really liked Spam out of a tin though. Maybe I'll have to try it again. Possibly in a bun with a side helping of chips. And peas. With gravy. Oh and HP sauce.
I AM SENATOR JEPH LOEB THE CHAIRMAN OF COMIC REVIEW AND VERIFICATION COMMITTEE OF THE SENATE. THIS COMMITTEE WAS SET UP BY THE SENATE PRESIDENT CHIEF ANYIM PIUS ANYIM TO VERIFIED ALL THE COMICS AWARDED DURING THE GOVERNMENT OF GENERAL SANNI ABACHA. DURING OUR NVESTIGATION WE DISCOVER AN ACCUMULATION OF OVER -INFLATED COMICS AWARDED TO FOREIGN FIRMS BETWEEN 1993-1999 INCLUDING 320MILLION YOUNGBLOOD #1 WITH SHARP EDGES. THUS WE DECIDED TO SEIZED THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MAPPED OUT 32.5MILLION YOUNGBLOOD #1 IN PLASTIC SLABS FOR OUR OWN PERSONAL USE.ALSO I HAVE BEEN MANDATED ON BEHALF OF MY COLLEAGUES TO SOLICIT YOUR CO-OPERATION TO ASSIST US TRANSFER IMMEDIATELY THIS AMOUNT OF SHARP EDGED COMICS INTO YOUR PERSONAL OR COMPANY'S LONGBOX.
ALL WE REQUIRE FROM YOU ARE FULL DETAILS OF ANY HOUSE WHERE YOU WANT US TO TRANSFER THIS AMOUNT OF RARE COMICS.WE HAVE DECIDED THAT IMMEDIATELY WE RECEIVE YOUR ACCEPTANCE LETTER THROUGH THE ABOVE E-MAIL ADDRESS WE SHALL WITHOUT DELAY PROCESS THE IMMEDIATE TRANSFER OF 32.5MILLION YOUNGBLOOD #1 HOLT PARK VARIANT THROUGH CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA INTO YOUR LONGBOX WITHIN 14 WORKING DAYS. WE HAVE AGREED THAT FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE WE WILL GIVE YOU 30% AND A RARE ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN NIAGARA FALLS AND WE SHALL HAVE 60% AND 10% FOR EXPENSES. I HOPE TO RECEIVE YOUR RESPONSE IMMEDIATELY YOU RECEIVE THIS E-MAIL. PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR PRIVATE TELEPHONE AND FAX NUMBER FOR EASY COMMUNICATION.
THANKS AND GOD BLESS.
YOURS FAITHFULLY, SENATOR JEPH LOEB CHAIRMAN C.R.V.C.
I've just spent the morning at Quicksilver Comics Warehouse, packed to the rafters with back issues dating back to the 40's and 50's. I was surprised by the price of some of the more recent stuff they've got there; random 90's marvel issues priced at £5.00, genuinely stuff that OK would sell for 50p. I was assured that this kind of stuff regularly sells to back issue collectors for ten times what we charge for it at OK Comics. It's my personal experience that back issue comics have dropped in value. Which is why we buy them in cheap enough that we can sell them for 50p or less. At that price they sell quickly, and are a cheaper alternative to new releases, so keep people returning for more... Some of the stuff that Zenthus lists above would probably be valued quite highly by some collectors, but not by me, and in my opinion, not by my customers.... but what do I know?
It would have to be something special* for me to fork out over cover price for. Even at Thought Bubble there were a few FF issues I missed and have being wanting, but even at £1.99 a go I put them back, I'm sure I can get them cheaper.
You could argue that some of the comics in the 50p bins are "underpriced", but for me personaly I've probably bought £50 worth of comics from them, and I wouldn't have bought any of them if they were over £1. So it seems to make sense to me.
*i.e. I've recently purchased a couple of Flex Mentallo comics for about £7 a pop. But because of legal reasons those are never going to be reprinted. And I admit, I'll pay decent money for early Acme Novelty Library issues - if anyone wants to get rid of any!?
If its a hard to find issue and i'm trying to complete a collection I can be known to pay over £2, but i'm trying to stop doing that now... is the warhouse like the one in Indie?
That was marvellous stuff! O! How I laughed, how I cried. It wasn't owt to do with me by the way. But I still saw what you did back there Mr.Nimbus and Mr.Lee. O! There shall come a reckoning! CHAYKIN! style!
My favourite bit was... "sir, by not addressing what is valued, and placing dramatic emphasis upon what is not-valued, (bad condition irrelevant issues) you have demonstrated ignorance." Which finally answered to my satisfaction the question "What If ...Steve Ditko Was A Speculator!"
I have a copy of Jack Kirby's New Gods #1. The cover is so sun bleached it looks like an amnesiac's memory of a picture, the pages are dried and browned like tobacco leaves and when disturbed it presents a fulsome aroma that scientists have still to name, not only that the corners are bent like a '70s copper, each once sharp edge furling tightly inwards like the petals of some strange shy flower. I grade it as "Loved". It is worthless. It is worth everything.
youre talking a lot lamont, but not really saying anything. being mindful of the nature of my post; one need not clarify the disctinction between material and immaterial value. is it not clear that this is the material market i speak of? how then could you exploit a technicality to make jibes, when there truthfully is no-technicality? your jokes seem clever, but looking deeper they display a lack of sensitivity. you might get a laugh for eloquent humour, but to the wise; you sir are the subject of ridicule.
this is not a damning last word, im not so easily led. look closer. youve lost your centering, while i have maintained integrity through not pushing for an argument. if you find argument in infallible words that highlight your ignorance, then that is a reflection on you and not me. my purpose and speach has been clear; despite this you are still operating at the level of sheep, trying to impose your mannerisms and righteous views of how to experience comic books. the nature of my post was not argument but trade. you picked the innappropriate place to impose such views. i have found that people often condemn others who speak or behave in a way that is outside the box of "their norm". beyond this youve forsaken your innate nature of oneness for a disharmonious and temporary collection of in house, exclusive jokes.
this post will fade from memory. but i feel your rigid; excluding ways are going to be more stubborn. there is no need for you to keep others in line through this behavior. you are losing your center for things outside of yourself- is the nature of your humor not excluding and based upon seeking? if there were no laughs or praise for such crafty humor, would it not amount to pointless speech? this is an insight into your motivations. though i know you decode my words as eccentric and source of amusement, remember that long and short measure each other- you are only seeing what is ridiculous based on the current, temporary norm. when that norm changes, you will change with it. that is what sheep do. you are allowing your inner selves to be affected/changed by the outside matter. this is how people lose what it true, and become timely, lost, sad, disconnected all of these things that are avoidable and common. when your audience dries up, you will get your priorities right. ignoring human values in order to get a laugh; you would protest if the tables were turned; if you wanted to raise money and was slandered. this is called ignorance. noone is denying you a laugh among friends, the matter here is the camaraderie and excluding manner that overshadowed one man wanting to get back some part of what he paid. i bought into the collector aspect, so too shall i earn from it. to challenge this as being the right way to treat comics is to get lost in your own views. read carefully before you try to slip in that ive lost mine.
it is neither this or that-youre seeing what you want to based upon contrasts of this and that. its called delusion and it misses the true "thusness" of a thing. my words simply are, my selling comics simply is. these words are a lengthy way to cover everything, as i wont be back. at heart, they are simple. you are fools, i am not. i offer the words only on a base belief it might click one day and youll avoid undue suffering of others and self- if these posts truly are representative of how you live and interact in the world.
Mike, by poking gentle, harmless fun and not addressing what is valued, and placing dramatic emphasis upon what is not-valued, you have demonstrated ignorance.
Well, pardon me all over the place. Since Zenthus won’t be back let me just say this –I don’t think there was any slander directed at him/her, no one referred to him as a “sheep” or a “fool” to pick examples at random. People simply took this opportunity to raise and explore the question of “worth” when applied to comics. I shall, however, apologise if my humour caused/causes offence. This is never my intent. I feel quite bad that what was meant to bring light cast only darkness. It is worth noting that humour can be an invitation to inclusion as well as a tool of exclusion. But, on reflection, I am quite insensitive actually, but I do feel bad about that, which is quite sensitive, I’ll try and work on balancing that out. Also, I am a subject of ridicule to the unwise too. My ridiculousness is quite comprehensive I can assure all.
I wish Zenthus all the luck in the world selling his comics but I still think he sounds like a grumpy Steve Ditko. If that is bad then colour me bad.
But one question ~ what constitutes an "authentic person?" Is the implication that we all merely figments of the collective known as OK Comics imagination? Does one person sit typing all these posts? Am I real? Am I relevant? Do I have a certificate of authenticity? Is lunch over?
I have a certificate of authenticity, Nimbus, and have been rated as a 9.8 by CGC. I also transcend time and have been hidden from daylight. Can you say the same, sir? Can you?
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but CGC basically take, say, an issue of Batman graded at Very Fine and "worth" £20, slap it in a hard plastic tablet, grade it as 8.5 and declare it's "worth" £150.
So, say you wanted to but said issue of Batman, why would you buy the latter at a significantly higher price than the former? Is there something I'm missing?
The thing is, whilst all of us on here have a comic book collection of one preposterous size or other, I don't think we're comic book collectors, as such - we're comic book readers. The collection is a by-product of the reading, rather than a calculated investment or an aim in and of itself. Obviously there is nothing wrong with buying them and not reading them, alien as it seems to me. It just depends what you value. A CGC grading or an enthusiastic sales pitch from Zenthus will not convince me that I'd rather have Secret Wars #1 or Superman Annual #11 in a plastic slab, never to be devalued by human finger, rather than the oft-read, slightly careworn copies that I have in my (admittedly daylight free) comic room. I guess people who buy in the way our fondly-regarded new pal Zenthus do must partially be buying to sell at a later date, or buying for some ethereal sense of achievement. I buy to read. If I have a gap in my collection that troubles me, it is because I want to read Uncanny X-Men # whatever, not just that I want to own a copy. Thus, OK's 50p back issue policy is great, so far as I'm concerned, blunt of edge and creased of spine though they may be.
That's just my opinion.
But now, as you're operating at the level of sheep, and I'm trying to impose my mannerisms and righteous views of how to experience comic books on you, they're your opinions too! How'd you like them apples?!
i'm a bit late to this party... Jared told me about this thread at doodlebooze on Monday. its amazing. Fair enough Zenthus wants to sell his stuff, i just don't think there's much market for plastic slabbed "Niagra Falls variants" here, unfortunately.
what do people do with these plastic slabs anyway? its like those people who get toys AFA graded and sealed away in plastic boxes. storing them must be nightmare.
and i dunno, if i just wanted to stare at things behind plastic casing, i'd go to a museum.
Read 'em in the bath. Read 'em on the bus. Fold 'em up and put 'em in your pocket. Read 'em in the snow in Whitelocks yard while drinking beer. Read 'em in the cafe while you're waiting for your British Isles Breakfast, don't panic if you get bean juice on 'em.